30 Sep

#002: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles / Robocop / Blackfish

Two episodes in for the TRN Podcast, J.B. and Eddie talk about 3 selections, one of which they strongly disagree on.
1.) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (03:03)
2.) Robocop (12:20)
3.) Blackfish (21:09)





Special Thank you to Kirk Cameron for this gem of a movie poster we found online that is so ridiculous, we had to share with you.


  • Mordecai Veldt

    This website has a good summary of what turns me off about blackfish and its ilk of “documentaries:”

    They evidently have the goal and purpose of manipulation instead of information.

    • http://www.jbwaggoner.com jbwaggoner

      “If you take these animals out of the public consciousness, how much good
      will is lost for all marine mammals, especially the great whales?” I liked this comment by the author as a rebuttal to taking all animals out of captivity.

      Would you say the film should have started with “Based on true events”?

      • Mordecai Veldt

        Trying to be generous, I think an honest tagline could have been: “An emotionally stirring, dark look at Orca captivity, in the style of a documentary”
        That seems to honestly put their priorities in order.

    • Grant English 

      I think I’m with Mordecai on Blackfish. The science is at times appalling. That being said, there is no excuse SeaWorld could ever invent to justify their continued practice of putting orca trainers in death’s way.

      Even with faults and it being more an emotional plea than anything else, I was stilll moved by the film and am appalled by the practices of Sea World.

      • http://www.jbwaggoner.com jbwaggoner

        Yeah, for me the basic idea that stuck with me was SeaWorld was manipulative and grossly negligent and it cost peoples their lives. And they are still going.

        And the questions you and Mordecai raise is also a great discussion: In a documentary, what is manipulation and what is just choosing to tell a given perspective? Movies don’t act like scientific research, at the end of the day you have to decide what the story will be about and you can’t play equally to both sides. And it’s easier to make someone the villain and someone else the hero. But then again, you can’t fabricate data.

        • Grant English 

          Every story is told from some perspective. There is never a truly “objective” story teller. (The Art of Killing comes pretty close – add that one to your cue.) Politics and religion walk this line as well – what is manipulation and what is “research/truth.”

          What I want from a documentary are three things…

          1. Tell me the story. Let the truth/facts drive the story. But be sure to put facts in a metanarrative. Tell me in what large story do these truths fit. Give me a chance to connect with this large story. You know what I’m saying?

          2. Let me see ‘out of frame.’ Tip your hand and let me know from what perspective you are telling this story. I want to hear your voice in the story.

          3. Be true to the absent. Give me a fair angle on the opposite side, don’t sell me a straw man. Give me the tension and as best as you can, don’t solve the problem for me.

          Blackfish did a great job on 2 of these but compromised on being true to the absent as well as getting their ‘facts’ straight in all cases.

          btw – I totally agree with you and Eddie that there is a HUGE difference between what zoos and aquariums do as opposed to the entertainment company called SeaWorld.

          What do you and Eddie look for in a documentary?

          • http://www.jbwaggoner.com jbwaggoner

            Just like normal movies, I like to be taken somewhere. Like in the tour bus with Justin Beiber…

          • Grant English 

            I think I threw up a little in my month…